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    jeremy1
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    Date d'inscription : 14/06/2007

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    Message  jeremy1 Mer 12 Déc 2007 - 16:57

    bonjour,

    batteur souhaite utiliser l'informatique et l'electronique appliquee a la batterie accoustique mais ne sais quoi (ni comment) utiliser materiel (groove-box; sampleur-boucleur; echamtillonneur; mixeur etc...).

    rech conseils (et cours) non pas de batterie pure, ou proprement dit, mais plutot sur la facon d'utiliser les nouvelles technologies pour un batteur.

    je souhaite plus precisemment jouer sur des play back (et loops ect...) comme font batteurs modernes : cf ''www.drummerworld.com'', a la partie drummers, aller a la partie modern drummers, voir videos : gavin harrisson ; hilary jones ; pat petrillo, ulf stricker, ralf gutske, sean rick, jouant sur des playback. ou trouvent ils ces playback ? est ce des musiciens enregistrees ? des play back issue d'un site internet ou autre ? creations faites l'aide d'un logiciel de musique ? comment utiliser les differentes machines precedemment citees ? l'ideal serait donc de prendre des cours avec une personne passionnee afin de comprendre quel matos et comment l'utiliser en tant que batteur.

    Si vous connaissez des gens dans votre entourange pouvant repondre a mon attente, faites moi signe ou envoyez lui ce message directement en copie- colle. merci de me contacter de preference sur :

    jeremy.cohen@hotmail.fr

    Voici un message envoye en anglais a differents batteurs modernes du site drummerworld.com :

    Hello,


    My name is Jeremy Cohen, 27 years old amateur drummer living between France and Israel.

    I am very sorry to disturb you, but i thought that you could maybe help me a little in my investigations or searches.

    I would like to know what kind of electronics stuff and material i should use, in further to experiment this recent approach of drums, by mixing and combine electronics technologies with acoustic drumset.

    Yes indeed, i saw on the web site ''www.drummerworld.com'' that more and more drummers are using informatics and electronics, playing on play backs, loops, samples, using samplors and groove machines (like roland SPD-S etc...).

    I hope you can help me on that two main questions :

    first thing : do you know where i can find some loops, songs (playbacks) ? Is there some internet sites where there is some ? CDs that i can buy ? Can you send me some if i pay for them ? I know that of course that there is logiciels of music creation (cakewalk, cubase etc...), but what about the playbacks we often heard (rock, jazz etc...)? As well samplors or grooves machines.

    As you see i have that kind of questions, but of course you don't need to respond to all of them, but just to give me a view of what i should use in that configuration of playing. I've made my on searches but i wanted to took informations from the source, wich means international drummers that might be confronted at those configuration of playing.

    To be more precise, i saw during my searches, that there were a lot of different machines but i don't know what is interesting to use for a drummer ? what are the important and basics electronics stuff i should have ? Computer or Groove box or samplor ? Sequencer ? Numeric little studio or/and studio pack or studio work station ? Analogic mixer ? Microphones for accoustic drumset ? Audio capture or midi and audio interface (box, table or cable) ? Extension cart (or plug ins) ? Analogic recorder ? Equalizer ? monitors and ear phones ? carts or sound moduls like there is in technologie COSM that are inside the modules of Rolland V-drum ? Audio capture (like in Edirol technologies from Roland) ? Producer or studio edition products like Sonar of Cakewalk or Drumatic Loops of Cakewalk products also (in Roland website) ?

    I don't in wich compagny i have to surch exactly, because there is many technicals explication (wich is complicated to understand for me right now) and there is many stuff for different exploitation and musicians (DJ, guitarist...).

    So I don't know how and where to begin in further be a ''modern drummer'', more modern in my approach ?

    In parrallel of this i would like also catch me playing by video way in further to present me to the musicians i can meet in my progression as a musician.

    So i hope that you have some few advices or any contacts of people that can explain and show me, in a very little and concise ''menu'' (with very little descriptions or advices), what to do ? Wich are the main different options for us, drummers ?

    ps : sorry for that long mail but i wanted to be sure that you understand globaly my search.
    You can keep my mail and answer me when you want in the days are comming or later.


    Hope to see you playing soon in Israel or in Paris. Thank very much, and all the best !


    jeremy.cohen@hotmail.fr
    usob solina
    usob solina
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    Message  usob solina Mer 12 Déc 2007 - 20:04

    Salut !

    L'idéal pour un batteur qui veut utiliser un peu d'électronique, c'est d'avoir un contrôleur MIDI avec des pads, sur lesquels il peut taper pour décleencher la lecture d'échantillons. S'il s'agit de sons simples, un simple échantillonneur (matériel ou logiciel) branché sur le controleur MIDI suffit.

    Par contre, on peut aller plus loin et déclencher la lectures de multiples échantillons calés sur un même tempo, et la les possibilités deviennent impressionnantes ! Pour celà, le mieux est de passer par un logiciel comme Live d'Ableton.

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